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Sumdac = chaos?

Post  Bad Wolf on Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:13 am

Stevescream @ January 11, 2008 10:19 am/TheTFRealm.com wrote:
There's not too much to be said about Dr. Sumdac, but the name seems odd, almost like it's an anagram of some sort. Seeing as this is a children's show, though, I thought it might be simpler than that. I may be right. Sumdac spelled backwards is Cadmus, an ancient Greek demigod. There are some parallels to his story:

1. Cadmus built a city with five warriors (spartes) he grew from a sacred dragon's tooth. (The five Autobot warriors are helping to keep Detriot a safe place and even assisited in rebuilding it after Starscream decimated part of it.)

2. It's theorized that the "real" Cadmus ancient legend is based around was more of a philosopher who actually promoted modern agriculture and the standardization of the pheonetical alphabet in ancient Greece. (Sumdac likewise brought a new industry to civilization.)

3. At one point, Cadmus in legend used a special cow to guide him to the place he'd found the city of Thebes. (Sumdac used the money he made from advancements via Megatron's head to essentially buy out a chunk of Detroit.)

Furthermore,

To this day, some in Greece contend that Cadmus was originally a Boeotian, that is, a Greek hero, and that in later times, the story of a Phoenician immigrant of that name became current, to whom was ascribed the introduction of the alphabet, the invention of agriculture and working in bronze and of civilization generally. But the name itself is Greek; and the fact that Hermes was worshipped in Samothrace under the name of Cadmus or Cadmilus seems to show that the Theban Cadmus was originally an ancestral Theban hero corresponding to the Samothracian. Another Samothracian connection for Cadmus is offered via his wife Harmonia, who is said in some accounts to be daughter of Zeus and Electra and of Samothracian birth. The name Cadmus may mean "order," and may be used to characterize one who introduces order and civilization.

But, with Sumdac being the reverse of Cadmus, perhaps Sumdac is indicated as being disorderly, or chaotic?

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Post  Fenric on Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:11 pm

How about inept or amateurish

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Re: Sumdac = chaos?

Post  Bad Wolf on Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:25 pm

a little background if u will.....

this is the basic theory i wrote up when i labeled my spirituality 'chaos'
as well as my very life style....after all to live in a chaotic universe...one must become chaotic

**ps**
please feel free to tear my theory apart...its obviously a rough draft Cool
and hasnt been revisited in many many years.


back
in late january to mid feb(of '99), the 'cards' told of the judgement that
is/was to come. Therewould be beattles, trials, temptation, and
love...Then there would be nothing...
this was after the new year,
the new millineum for some, the year of th dragon for others...as for
me this is/was to be the year of great change...a year of chaos..


i've
been wanting to tell this tale all ofmy life, i just did not know how
or where to begin...as for the meaning to the cards .. it fortold a
great many events, my life was about to change forever...just didnt
know when .. some of the events in the cards have already happend .. and some events are self repeating.

the
events and sugjestions in my theories, short stories, prose
piece...what not...may seem unclear or vauge .. not to worry that is
just how things are.
Parts of this writting may not be agreeable to
allbut then i say F*it..not everything is....so on that note..I have
lots of thoughts and rambling to get on with so ..
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Every
reaction throughout the universe has an equal and logical reaction.
which is the by product of a chaotic reaction to that pre-emted a
negatice illogical action.


with
out chaos, there would be no advancement. the universe would come to a
stalemate and entophy would set in. behind every chaotic deed, resides
the madness of order. without dearth, there would be no life.
death
is the actual begining and re-begining of all things....life is just
the time spent inbetween...death is never the end result of life, but is
fore runner
Everything happens with a method behind its maddness.
the greatest 'evils' of this planet have all had chaotic order come
from them. had these evils never existed, then civilization would not
have advance.....if desiese like polio or collora never existed then
medicines we have to help fight other infectious desises would not have
been found..... if man does not have an outside evil force to
confront...then man will grow soft..stale...fight amoungst
himself......cease to be....

when chaos is 1st visualized*
by most .. it is though to be violent and evil .. in chaos however, the
concepts of good and evil only apply if one of the two is around to
compare or contrast the action or event against it. violence is not
chaos or it is not the direct cause or caused by chaos...
yes..violence
is a form of chaos its self but does not always have to precede or
follow violence. the concept of good and evil is exactly that, a
concept..a concept....in nature...this concept does not exist..nor is
there any lables marking as such.....there is only action and
reaction...
tho the main argument against this is
that..people/humans..are beyond this chain of reaction and action. For
the most part .. yes
human beings are one of the few species on
this planet that are caple of obtaining a higher consious and given
cognative thought.

however...the destructive nature of the human species falls within the course laid forth with in chaos..
it
is this cognative thought that allows a human to understand the
emotions that rage thru us....it is this ability that grants us insite
to step out side our selves and see our world from the outside
in****think 3rd person view***to make the decison wether to harm or the
heal and how

3 truths in the universe
- a)everything in the universe will ultimatly break down into energy.
- b)in the grand cosmic scheme of things....a rock as just as much importance as a human being as a blade of grass.
-
c)the emotions that dwell within a person are the key to conecting the
prev two truths and harnessing the power that connects them

chaos
is always moving, if it stands still then etophy will set in....there
will be no unity..there is only enternity, infinity and chaos..this
process will never end..some parts of the equation are just longer than
others.


*Visualized -
Main Entry: vi·su·al·ize
Pronunciation: 'vi-zh&-w&-"lIz, 'vi-zh&-"lIz, 'vizh-w&-"lIz
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): -ized; -iz·ing
transitive
verb : to make visible: as a : to see or form a mental image of :
ENVISAGE b : to make (an
internal organ or part) visible by radiographic visualization
intransitive verb : to form a mental visual image



here's some of the rebutle ive received over the years

(DTOP23) wrote:If
chaos is visualized it would automatically become order. That is what
our nervous system does, imposes order onto chaos. We do not seem to be
able to grasp chaos/infinity in our current condition. We cannot
experience it fully without the aid of some sort of ordered symbol
system (model) which is more a reflection of our personal prejudices
than objective space/time "reality". This "reality" could very well
exist in a potential state of "chaos" until someone looks or makes a
measurement. Good and evil are also relative to the observer. Where is
the zero point where good becomes evil, right becomes left, up becomes
down, hot becomes cold, yin becomes yang? These are all just differing
degrees and are again relative to who's setting the standard and making
a measurement or an observation. If the living symbol of the yin/yang
were in motion, hence time, at what speed do the yin and yang become
one? Yin occupies Yang, and vice versa, at the same exact time. Look
into "hidden variables" and superluminal (faster than light) influence
theories in Quantum Physics for some further enlightenment.

now
1st...i beleive the poster thought my verbage was litteral ** as in you
Visually saw Chaos incarnate. That is not the case. As you saw in my
previous post, i have now included the definition of Visualized. This
is ment to be more metaphoric than litteral.
Now if one was to actually "visualize" chaos, then 2 things could happen:
1 - the person would litterally go insane.
insanity is caused by the mind trying to rationalize what can not be rational.
2 - As previously stated by DTOP23, the mind would put order to what it was seeing and interpreting therfore.

As previously stated, a "model" to help anchor us and define the chaos.
This again is not what i was trying to convey.
DTOP23 has a valid point that:
"Good
and evil are also relative to the observer. Where is the zero point
where good becomes evil, right becomes left, up becomes down, hot
becomes cold, yin becomes yang? These are all just differing degrees
and are again relative to who's setting the standard and making a
measurement or an observation."


That is what i was trying
to express. That Chaos in and of its self is nothing and something all
at once. that people/things/events .. give it shape and define it.

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Re: Sumdac = chaos?

Post  Bad Wolf on Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:39 pm




The chaos star (or sphere) is an eight pointed star, with each one of
The points representing an aspect of chaos.

It doesn’t matter where the aspect is place upon the star,
It only has to be opposite of it’s corresponding aspect,
They are represented more by color than position.

Black – Death
Violet – Time
Yellow – Life
Orange – Pestilence
Green - Birth and Re/Birth
Brown – Famine
Red – War/Destruction
White – Entropy

Because of the way it (The chaos star/sphere) spins,
It does not spin neither clock wise or counter clock wise
Think of it as traveling in an eliptical pattern very similar
To that of the rotation of an atom, or the planets revolving
Around the sun
( see example )



The numeric value for infinity (unity) is 1
The numeric value for eternity (infinity) is 2
The numeric value for entropy is 0
Eternity is never ending, yet
After that, every number that is divisible by 2 has infinity at its core
hence the eight points. Where the prime or core number in chaos - 5

The Chronos paradox - Time Relativity // http://www.umich.edu/~engtt415/menu.html**
12:20 - 5
11:11 - 4
10:20 - 3
9:11 - 2
8:20 - 1
7:11 - 9
6:20 - 8
5:11 - 7

This repeating pattern in time is what move chaos in a wave, To move kinetic energy
through time Edothermic energy must be used.
Endothermic reactions cannot occur spontaneously. Work must be done in order to get these reactions to occur. When endothermic reactions absorb energy, a temperature drop is measured during the reaction. Endothermic reactions are characterized by positive heat flow (into the reaction) and an increase in enthalpy (+ΔH).

The law of 3 states that chaos will always happen in odd numbers.
It is always moving, changing...if it stands still then entropy will set in.
There must never be unity, There can only be infinity, eternity - chaos
This has happened before, it will happen again, and again, and again and so on ..
each time with slight variation.

When manipulating sound via speech or words: (example: modern english language)
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
A B C D E F G H I
J K L M N O P Q R
S T U V W X Y Z


**(Ref url's used for clarification. I wrote this in '99)

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